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Being a pot-head versus being an alcoholic is kind of like saying, "Do you want to be bitten by a lion, or do you want to be bitten by a tiger?"

It just boils down to this: pot is illegal and alcohol is not. Unless that changes, marijuana users will continue to complain. If alcohol becomes illegal, people who use alcohol will complain.

Illegal is illegal. That is all.

For once i actually think the LEGALIZATION crowd has won the debate on dailyjournal. Just a couple people are on here bashing marijuana. Obviously people who think that smoking makes you a paranoid maniac that drives around and kills people while abandoning their kids and raising them to be stoners. I think pot is more comparable to something like prozac. It chills you out. Of course some people smoke themselves retarded and laugh all nite. But aspirin is legal even though taking too many puts you to sleep for good.

dbaks;Thats my point.Why do people choose to do theese drugs that they get addicted to and waste their life on?If one wants to get high just mix up a strong drink and smoke a fat one,kick back,chill out,end of story,no harm done.Well maybe a lil harm but you wont have to shoot up the next day just so you can get out of bed to function properly.And your chances of overdose is next to nothing.

lol. its funny how no matter what ppl will always want to argue and judge. I love these blogs. dbaks, i agree that it would be irresponsible IF there was no one to be there in case of an emergency or whatever, but in my case, sorry to inform you, there is. My fiance does not drink, smoke, or anything, so if and when the event of an emergency would arise, she would be able to soberly-minded drive and everything would be fine. I may be wrong, but from your post I'm assuming that you look down upon anyone who has ever drank at a family reunion, wedding, or bbq where children are present?
As far is in the care my children get, its immaculate compared to alot of children these days. I don't know many children who are privileged to have their mother there 24/7/365 because she doesn't have to work,and i don't know many children who get everything material-wise they want and need either, or getting all the love under the sun and a quality of life that the majority of kids will never have.

tothemoonandback TAD, and ABCD, totally agree. Blasterrat, oxy never killed anyone either, it was the person who took it if I'm using your analogy. I think we ALL know that cars don't go around with homicidal intentions. ANYWAY...I cannot believe how many people refuse to think that their drug/alcohol use has no effect on their children, whether or not it's done in front of them. Are you serious? I mean, sitting there laughing and zoning out, are you really able to give your kids your full attention? It's not possible for you to be both high and sober-minded, so how is it that your kids are getting the best possible care while you're buzzed? Even if they're sleeping, there could be an emergency and basically, you're willfully choosing to be "high," full-well knowing ahead of time that your capability to care for them with a sober mind is gone. Ridiculous. Absolutely selfish and irresponsible whether it's *legal* or not.

Leadwood Girl...keep up the good work. I am proud of you

I'd say a pretty good one compared to most ppl that smoke and have kids. Definitely much better than the one my father set, and that alot of ppl set for their kids. Like i said, I'm not your average smoker, and i don't live your average life.

I didn't drink at all from age 22 till about a year ago, and since then, i will maybe buy 1 or 2 24oz cans during my time home, wait till after my 2 year old is asleep, and maybe drink about 1/2 the can. By then, the beer is warm and usually gets dumped down the sink. (yes i waste the small amount of beer that i buy, but oh well). Now before you start wondering on the money i spend on my "activities", lets count it up. 2 24oz cans-$5,1 bag of smoke-$25. so i spend $30 every other month on them, which is far less than my $450 to $500 in bullets i shoot each time im home, or even my about a carton a week cigarette habit, but when you clear $4000+ per month, that's not a lot at all. How long do i think i can keep this going? Quite a long time, I'm sure. Probably until either i eventually outgrow smoking, or until the kids are old enough to make their own decisions on what they do. And what kind of example am i setting?

ABCD, I laughed when i woke up this evening and saw your post. No, I have never smoked or drank in front of my kids. You should have noticed from my other post that my schedule is much different than most ppl around our area in being that i work on the river and am gone 28 days and home 28 days, and that i only smoke the first week I'm home, so that's only 1 week every 2 months. I have my oldest,7, every other weekend, and have never smoked and will not when he is there, so that rules out him catching on or ever noticing anything. I'm a late night smoker, so my soon to be stepson, 2, has been long in bed and fast asleep long before i even think of going out back and toking up, so that takes care of him not catching on or noticing too. I don't believe in doing it when there's a chance that they will see what i saw my father do my whole time growing up. I partied real hard from age 15 to about 22, and by age 22 i was burnt out on drinking period.

riverrat420...so you don't drink or smoke in front of your children?? How long do you think you will be able to get away with that?? I don't know how old they are, but I am thinking that eventually they will notice there is something not quite right with dad after he goes out back for a little while. Kids are not stupid....also they tend to emmulate what they see, live and experience. What kind of example are you setting?

I have many times often heard the excuse that God made pot, it is natural. Well, God also made a rattlesnake, why not try to pick one of them up and light it and see what happens.

tothemoonandback, 2 things. 1, not all ppl who smoke do so in front of their children. i have never even drank a beer in front of mine, let alone smoked, and never will. Also, not everyone who smokes drives when under the influence, most just sit at home and zone in on a movie or whatever. 2, can you list a valid reason as to why it was made illegal, other than the reasons of racism, greed and politics?

lsmlp, one question. How is it that you can suggest that pot ruins what could be productive citizens, when its well documented George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Ben Franklin, James Madison, James Monroe, and many of the other founding fathers grew and smoked it, and were most likely high when they drew up the Declaration of Independence, Bill of Rights, and Constitution? I'm just wondering.....

blasterrat, you hit the nail on the head with the hammer. I agree 100%. Ive been active with the STL chapter of NORMAL for a long time and I'm sure that one day in the near future bud will be legal, we are the closest to legalization that we have ever been. As of now i can only smoke 1 to 1 1/2 weeks every other month because they do random testing out here on the boats due to coast guard regulation, but you can guarantee that once its legal, i look forward to being able to blaze up the whole 28 days i'm home.

Ismlp; I hate to tell you but pot didnt kill your relative,the person who smoked it and made the choice to drive did.Same goes with guns,its not the gun but rather the person firing it that kills.Sorry for your loss.Leadwood girl;Kudos to you.Your correct.When one has an addictive behavior it is best they avoid all drugs.At least you were smart enough to realize that for yourself and take action to correct.Congradulations for your efforts.Tothemoonandback;Like I say pot doesnt drive,people do DUH! and your calling me a moron?

Is there anything drugs can't do?

blasterrat: Until you talk with someone who lost a loved one because someone on the same road was high on pot...you cannot say that pot is not dangerous! Also...alcohol kills everyday! Both of these destroy marriages, screw up childrens' lives, and ruin what could be productive citizens!

Sorry to disappoint you blasterrat. But I cant argue with that. I feel the same way.

Your comment has merit. If we were to legalize pot, commercially package it, then tax it, just imagine the possibilities. Lower the need for raising property taxes. Lower the budget to law enforcement. Lower cost of the prison system. Lower the crime rate for pot sales (now that it's legal, no more dealers and shady characters). Farmers would prosper. I agree, the positives outway the negatives by far!

I agree with you 100% blasterrat. You might want to check your spelling and punctuation before you post. Other wise people might think you are high.

No bashing from me. I may not be the typical person you see as an addict. It finally becomes a living hell! Someone told me what you stated "Just do weed or alcohol". I would just as easily be addicted to alcohol. Also have lived with an alcoholic. I know what it does. Weed? Tried it. But to be completely clean I have to stay away from all mind altering drugs. It is very hard to get clean and I finally did it "cold turkey" The good days are getting better, but I know it takes time and I accept this. So no bashing from me, and I hope I didn't come across as "preachy". I just know what I have to do to be "clean". Also read alot on internet. Had help by using vitamins and amino acids. And by reading other peoples stories. And definately read about PAWS(post acute withrawal)

Blasterrat, you obviously have little to no education. I will not call you a hypocrite, however, I will call you a moron. There is a reason that "bud" is illegal. Just because nobody has ever overdosed on it, does NOT mean that they have never gotten behind the wheel of a vehicle while under the influence. Furthermore, the majority of the pot heads do so in the presence of children. Same goes for alcohol. Although illegal, also incredibly stupid to start.

Lets see a repeat offender and she hired don hager i am surprised she didn't get the death penalty. ha ha ha. Anyway Blasterrat weed is illegal and should be. Alcohol probably should be however i will say if people would just STAY HOME i could truly careless what that took or drank. It is a problem when innocent people are victimized by these drunks and dopers much like the non-smokers by the smokers but that is for a different day. Good Day.

Oxys,heroin,meth.Theese drugs are a two way street.One way leads to jail the other way to the grave.Why cant people just smoke some bud and drink a couple of beers and be fine with just that?Makes no sense to me.I know weed and alcohol are both drugs but at least noone has ever overdosed on weed.In fact many have benefitted from smoking pot.Its good for pain [physical and emotional]and its relaxing allowing the thought process to flow freely.I am however strongly opposed to theese harder drugs.They destroy lives and kill people.Now you know how I see it so let the bashing begin.Go ahead,call me a hypocrit if you like.Who will be first?I think I know already.Lets see.