Bonne Terre considers putting property tax on ballot
City is one of few in state that does not have such tax
By TERESA RESSEL
Daily Journal Staff Writer
Daily Journal Staff Writer
Published: Sunday, November 29, 2009
Updated: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 7:36 AM CST
Updated: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 7:36 AM CST
During the public comment part of the Bonne Terre City Council meeting Monday night, a resident asked what needs to be done to get a property tax passed in Bonne Terre. She said she knows the city desperately needs it.
Mayor Fritz Gower said a property tax has been tried before, but people haven’t understood the need for it. He said several people have talked to him recently about the idea of putting a property tax back on the ballot and it is something they are considering.
He said he would like to get a property tax issue on the April ballot.
Bonne Terre is one of only a couple cities in the state that does not have a property tax. The city has not collected a property tax since 1979.
The last attempt to pass a property tax was in August of 2006 and then nearly 71 percent of voters voted against it.
Currently, the city counts on sales tax for revenue.
City Administrator Larry Barton said a property tax would help them to get grants. He pointed out that revenue hasn’t been increasing, especially with businesses like Egyptian Concrete possibly closing down.
The resident asked if sewer rates could decrease if the city could get a property tax in place. Gower said that isn’t something they’ve really explored. Others pointed out sewer increases are due to the Missouri Department of Natural Resources (DNR) imposing mandates and new rules.
From the audience, Susie Gower suggested residents contact their state legislators about what DNR is putting little towns through.
Also during the meeting, a resident asked city officials if anything was going to be done with the vacant Penny Pinchers building.
Larry Barton said USA Drug has been looking at building there but the problem has been with the EPA and DNR and the buried fuel tanks.
Fritz Gower indicated he was pleased with the crowd for the last two meetings. He said because of Ernie Cook’s comments made at the last meeting, city officials are reconsidering purchasing a paver to pave their own streets. He said they are realizing it may cause the city more problems. He said some of the streets will need milling, which would require more equipment.
He said these are the kind of comments they want from residents in town. He said if people have a gripe or a concern, the way to get their attention is to attend a city council meeting.
“In this case, he got our attention big time,” he said.
In other matters, Police Chief Doug Calvert said steps have been taken to make sure the flooding problem shouldn’t happen again. The city was able to minimize the damage to the police station by taking quick action.
During the meeting, Fritz Gower and Carolyn Tyler presented Janet Barton, who has volunteered on many committees and is a former council member, with a plaque of appreciation for her service to the city. A tree donated by Country Way Nursery was also planted in a city park for her. She announced last month that she is resigning from the city committees. She is currently on the North County school board.
In other matters, David Driemeier told City Administrator Larry Barton that he needs to look at a pipe that is not draining correctly at the pond.
Gladys Edwards thanked the city for allowing volunteers to collect money in the intersection on Halloween for the Todd Inserra family. She also thanked individuals who donated and businesses like Country Mart, McDonalds, Subway, Jack in the Box, and Burger King that helped.
Jennifer Herrera, a member of the Bonne Terre soccer board and a city employee, said 230 children participated in the city’s new soccer league this year and it went well. She said Saturday marked the end of the season.
Larry Barton introduced the city’s new receptionist, Cindy Koester.
The council approved a contract with James Rash of Bonne Terre as the computer tech for the city. The council accepted a bid from First State Community Bank to finance the purchase of a backhoe for the street department at 2.95 percent.
Teresa Ressel is a reporter for the Daily Journal and can be reached at 573-431-2010, ext. 179 or at tressel@dailyjournalonline.com.
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Mchoirdirector posted at Thursday, November 12th, 2009 at 9:44 pm
To anyone who thinks Bonne Terre isn't receiving a lot of money on Sales Taxes because there are so few businesses,look at your utility bills. Gas,Electric,Cable and telephone. The City of Bonne Terre receives thousands of dollars from the sales taxes paid on them.Still think you aren't overtaxed and underrepresented?
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btlady posted at Thursday, November 12th, 2009 at 5:14 pm
This is insane!! Jobs here have always been given to somebodies "kin" or a friends son! That is nothing new in Bonne Terre.
Come on people, our once loved town isn't the same anymore. PARKS- how many do we need? We have 5 that I can think of now, and I agree the one looks like an outside church or something, what is that?
Our money went for that? WE NEED a state audit now and then try to clean up the mess!
I love this town or at least what it used to be and would love to have more businesses but with all this crap going on who in their right mind would want to come here to start a new business
Come on people, our once loved town isn't the same anymore. PARKS- how many do we need? We have 5 that I can think of now, and I agree the one looks like an outside church or something, what is that?
Our money went for that? WE NEED a state audit now and then try to clean up the mess!
I love this town or at least what it used to be and would love to have more businesses but with all this crap going on who in their right mind would want to come here to start a new business
kevin_q32 posted at Thursday, November 12th, 2009 at 2:39 pm
There are no real answers for the city of Bonne Terre. Something is desperatly needed. Taxes, i dont know, maybe if we as voters know where the money is going to go, and then see the money go for that purpose, not to some park, we have 3. We as citizens of this town, would like to see businesses in Bonne Terre, i understand the Orchard development is priate property, but if Mr. Woods, is not going to sell his land for Bonne Terre to grow, i say we as tax payers need our money back for the road thru his propertty, and the interchange, a total of approx 9.7 million. I personally do not see a problem in becoming another Farmington, that includesw businesses, restuarants, entertainment, etc.., I do appreciate all the hard work the city does.
mitzi posted at Wednesday, November 11th, 2009 at 5:26 pm
I don't understand the comments about where "all the money" is being spent in Bonne Terre. Where is "all the money" supposedly coming from? The only real money coming into Bonne Terre is from sales tax, and with the limited businesses in the city, you can imagine how much that really is. If we don't have a property tax, then we do not qualify for the vast majority of grants, because we are not paying into our own town, but are asking the federal government to give us money. AS the article states, we are only one of a very few cities in the entire state that does not have a property tax. Bonne Terre needs to stop assuming that someone else is going to come in and save our town. If we want things done, we have to be willing to fund them. I agree that we should know, up front, exactly how the money will be spent, but we're going to have to do it, or lose Bonne Terre.
CAN'T BE posted at Wednesday, November 11th, 2009 at 5:06 pm
larryj, Please ask Mr. Barton for what grants and for how many he has applied since he has been in charge rather than state that we have received none. I believe you have to apply for them to be awarded any and since he is the paid administrator, not the city council, it would seem to me that he would be the one spending his time finding available grant money and doing everything in his power to garner money from the state or federal government to help alleviate the constant complaints of no money. What is it that we pay him, something around $45,000.00 and a car and ? Surely living in Bonne Terre, no commute, no leave at five o'clock and get home at seven, no leaving your wife and children to make a minimum wage job, and no dealing with what some of the rest of us are, he ought to be able to find a few hours a month to find a couple of grants a year for which the city could qualify. But that is just my opinion.
Just the Facts posted at Wednesday, November 11th, 2009 at 3:47 pm
I also am concerned that our City would hire without giving equal opportuntiy for others to apply or to those that have applied recently. Are there not Rules or Bi-Laws on how this process is handled? I sure would like to see them.
hushpuppy posted at Wednesday, November 11th, 2009 at 10:42 am
The problem is not with the DNR. At least they are trying to fix our water problem. Even with the mandates they have imposed, the water here is still unbearable. I get sick when I drink it as well as my dogs. The problem is with inappropriate spending by the city. A state audit would be great. I would love to see where it is going. I have heard rumors that money from the pool have come up missing as well as from the water department. Where is the story and investigation on that?
Zip Line posted at Wednesday, November 11th, 2009 at 8:14 am
Property tax = NO!
Audit = Yes
Vote the incumbents out = YES
Audit = Yes
Vote the incumbents out = YES
larryj posted at Tuesday, November 10th, 2009 at 8:30 pm
Here we go again. Same tired old routine, if they just had some more of your money, things would be so much better for everyone. Myself I am still waiting on all the great things that would come when the Prison opened, and all the grants that Bonne Terre would be able to get. The only thing I got out of that deal was a charge of either seven or nine dollars a month on my water bill, to build a sewer system for the prison.
I think some of the city officals have forgotten what got them in office. I will take this opportunity to remind them that people were tired of voting down proposed city property taxes, and promises by candidates for a state audit. Needless to say there never was a state audit, and now this bunch is talking property taxes.
I think some of the city officals have forgotten what got them in office. I will take this opportunity to remind them that people were tired of voting down proposed city property taxes, and promises by candidates for a state audit. Needless to say there never was a state audit, and now this bunch is talking property taxes.
OpenMinded posted at Tuesday, November 10th, 2009 at 7:53 pm
Interesting that the job for Computer Tech was not listed. Having a Bachelors in Comp Sci & an A+ Certification with over 10 years of experience "should" certainly qualify to apply/bid for such a position.
Tired of People you may want to look on https://www.missouricareersource.com/mcs/mcs/default.seek that's what I have been doing, as well as many other job search agents (e.g. Dice.com).
Tired of People you may want to look on https://www.missouricareersource.com/mcs/mcs/default.seek that's what I have been doing, as well as many other job search agents (e.g. Dice.com).
mitzi posted at Tuesday, November 10th, 2009 at 5:24 pm
Or was the city receptionist's position advertised? Shouldn't a city position HAVE to be open to the public?
red posted at Tuesday, November 10th, 2009 at 5:07 pm
I've said it before, and I'll say it again. whatever the DNR is putting bonne terre through it isn't enough if you live on turkey creek road, you would smell what I am talking about. some days its not bad at all but other days you can smell the sewage several yards away. As far as I'm concerned keep it up DNR. The city of Bonne Terre is not to be trusted when it comes to disposing of their sewage.
35yrresident posted at Tuesday, November 10th, 2009 at 4:11 pm
I would not mind voting FOR a property tax. The council needs to make sure they explain what this tax could and will do for Bonne Terre
